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		<title>By: alper</title>
		<link>http://alper.nl/dingen/2009/01/corporate-obstacles-in-the-netherlands/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I discussed both alternatives. A Ltd. would probably be frowned upon and a lessor would (rightly) demand additional collateral. And a stichting/vereniging does circumvent the €18&#039;000 but you stil need to draft documents at a public notary which I&#039;m guesstimating at somewhat over €1000 (I&#039;m having this checked).

So yeah, that is a lot more doable and is probably the way to go. Our problem has deferred itself from April until June so it&#039;s not so urgent anymore, but bootstrapping the Dutch creative climate &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discussed both alternatives. A Ltd. would probably be frowned upon and a lessor would (rightly) demand additional collateral. And a stichting/vereniging does circumvent the €18&#8217;000 but you stil need to draft documents at a public notary which I&#8217;m guesstimating at somewhat over €1000 (I&#8217;m having this checked).</p>
<p>So yeah, that is a lot more doable and is probably the way to go. Our problem has deferred itself from April until June so it&#8217;s not so urgent anymore, but bootstrapping the Dutch creative climate <em>is</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: PanMan</title>
		<link>http://alper.nl/dingen/2009/01/corporate-obstacles-in-the-netherlands/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>PanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to rent a space, you don&#039;t need a BV. You could get an english LTD, or a dutch Stichting. The Stichting can&#039;t make a profit, but it doesn&#039;t need to to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to rent a space, you don&#8217;t need a BV. You could get an english LTD, or a dutch Stichting. The Stichting can&#8217;t make a profit, but it doesn&#8217;t need to to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Gaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, next Tuesday works for us. Drop by any time you&#039;d like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, next Tuesday works for us. Drop by any time you&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: alper</title>
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		<dc:creator>alper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you guys be using the foundation for?

We are definitely on board the STIKK train (among others), but I don&#039;t know yet if or when I&#039;ll be moving to AMS. I am definitely going to cowork there one day in the week though starting next Tuesday, so can I drop by you guys then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you guys be using the foundation for?</p>
<p>We are definitely on board the STIKK train (among others), but I don&#8217;t know yet if or when I&#8217;ll be moving to AMS. I am definitely going to cowork there one day in the week though starting next Tuesday, so can I drop by you guys then?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Gaal</title>
		<link>http://alper.nl/dingen/2009/01/corporate-obstacles-in-the-netherlands/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Gaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! We&#039;ve been having some difficulties in this area as well with http://stikk.nl. We&#039;re in the process of creating a foundation as you suggest and talking to a lot of other parties (housing development agencies, the city, etc.) to overcome certain hurdles you mention. 

In that light, I would really like you to give Amsterdam a try and think about teaming up. You&#039;re absolutely right: Holland isn&#039;t big enough to do this all over the place.

By the way: the problem with the lack of angels can be solved if we are all just successful in the future ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! We&#8217;ve been having some difficulties in this area as well with <a href="http://stikk.nl" rel="nofollow">http://stikk.nl</a>. We&#8217;re in the process of creating a foundation as you suggest and talking to a lot of other parties (housing development agencies, the city, etc.) to overcome certain hurdles you mention. </p>
<p>In that light, I would really like you to give Amsterdam a try and think about teaming up. You&#8217;re absolutely right: Holland isn&#8217;t big enough to do this all over the place.</p>
<p>By the way: the problem with the lack of angels can be solved if we are all just successful in the future <img src='http://alper.nl/dingen/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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